2009 Archives http://www.jibblescribbits.com/table/2009-articles-blogspot/september/ Mon, 22 May 2017 15:29:38 +0000 Joomla! 1.5 - Open Source Content Management en-gb safecss http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/safecss.html http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/safecss.html jibblescribbits@gmail.com (Jibblescribbits) September Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:43:14 +0000 It could be a long winter... http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/it-could-be-a-long-winter.html http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/it-could-be-a-long-winter.html

See if this sounds familiar:

"Team A" had a mediocre team and a coach that had started to wear on some of his players the previous season. So "Team A" replaced a respected, if overrated, veteran coach with a young coach who is now promising a more "up-tempo" offense.

Does any of this sound familiar. Most people think I'm probably talking about the '08-09 Avs, and Tony Granato, and you'd be right... partially.

This is also the description that could be levied on the Minnesota Wild and their new coach Todd Richards. The extremly level-headed and rational Roy at Wild Puck Banter is already calling for his head.

So my pick for "Team that inexplicably falls off a cliff" goes to Minnesota, based solely on Roy's analysis.]]>
jibblescribbits@gmail.com (Jibblescribbits) September Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:52:00 +0000
Avalanche Roundtable Day 4 (part 2) http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/avalanche-roundtable-day-4-part-2.html http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/avalanche-roundtable-day-4-part-2.html

Sept 21 - Mile High Hockey
Sept 22 - Avs Prospects, Avslova Factor
Sept 23rd - Avaholics Anonymous, Avalanche of Thoughts
Sept 24th - Jibblescribbits
Sept 25th - Colorado Examiner, Anyone but Detroit
Sept 26th - Mile High Mayhem, Jerseys and Hockey Love
Sept 27th - Avalanche Guild
Sept 28th - Disgruntled Avalanche Blogger, HockeyBuzz
Sept 29th - Avs Talk, Hockeyism
Sept 30th - Mile High Hockey

Jibble thinks he's so funny, mocking me for not doing anything around here. Ha, what now!? Without further ado, the 2nd part of today's roundtable.

Given the way the things were said in the off-season, is Joe Sacco just a place holder for Patrick Roy, or is he the long term guy?
I think the mistake which everyone may be making is automatically assuming that an organization that has historically been opaque in their decision making would all of a sudden become so transparent as to let everyone know that Sacco is just keeping the bench warm for Roy. Should Roy have a shot at coaching at the NHL level? Certainly. Would it be fair to Sacco to have the specter of Roy breathing down his neck every time a mistake is made? No. The best part about this rebuild is that the sky is the limit and the team will be allowed to endure mistakes and growing pains. Let Sacco have his shot at bringing up the squad and go from there.
- Aaron @ The Dog and Pony show
Sacco isn’t a long term guy – but, outside of Ruff (BUF) and Trotz (NSH), no other head coach in the NHL is either. Last year, 3 of the 4 teams in the Conference Finals changed head coaching jobs during the regular season.

Coaching in the NHL is very overrated. Yes, coaches draw up some schemes, and work to get the best matchups for their team, and jumble up the lines when team is struggling offensively, but the main responsibility of the head coach is to simply get the team to work hard – which is easier said than done. (The GM's job is far more important – they bring in talent, which is ultimately what wins championships.)

If Roy wants to coach the Avs at some point, he was very smart to wait to take the job. In 2 or 3 years, I expect Colorado to be an exciting / talented / young team that’s ready to go to the next level and could use a new messenger. Roy (or someone else on the NHL coaching carousel) can swoop in provide that jolt.
- Sean @ Anyone But Detroit (love the name, dude!)
I think that's pretty clear at this point. Sacco isn't a storied coach, nor was he a storied player; right now, his resume reads two 14th place finishes as AHL coach. If the Avalanche out do expectations and finish, let's say, 9th or higher in the conference, then I think management won't be quick to get rid of him. But if the team finishes in the expected 12-15 range, Joe Sacco's tenure as coach will last only as long as the rest of Patrick Roy's tenure as coach of Quebec.
- Magnum @ Disgruntled Avalanche Blogger
Is Sacco a placeholder for Roy? I would hope that it all depends on how well Sacco does and that Lacroix hasn't already started looking past the new coach. Judging by how this team is run, however, this is an entirely plausible scenario. I wouldn't be disappointed if Roy was brought in as head coach, but I wouldn't like to see it at the expense of a successful one.
- Grant @ Hockeyism
Honestly...I'm not quite sure why Patrick Roy would want to coach here anytime soon. The only upside to that would be the potential of being one of the main guys that led the team out of rebuilding and back to glory. It's obviously going to be a while before that happens. And if the organization thinks that fans are going to buy season tickets because Patrick Roy is the coach they are definitely fooling themselves. Going directly into the situation here would have been pretty tough for such a proud guy. ***See Gretzky in Phoenix for reference. Bottom line, I really hope Joe Sacco does well here, and I don't think we'll see Roy as the Avs' coach anytime in the near future.
- Jay Vean @ Avs Hockey Podcast
I'm not sure he's the long-term guy, but I don't think he's a placeholder for Roy. Roy wanted a lot of money, and Kroenke's been tightening his belt recently. Also I am under the impression that the latest Roy courtship left some wounds in the relationship between him and Lacroix which will probably take some time to heal. I still think Roy will one day coach this team, but I think Sacco's going to get a fair chance to be the coach.
- Jibble

Stay tuned at Mile High Hockey for tomorrow's questions!

- thedoctor]]>
jibblescribbits@gmail.com (Jibblescribbits) September Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:04:00 +0000
Avalanche Blogger Roundtable - Day 4 (part 1) http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/avalanche-blogger-roundtable-day-4-part-1.html http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/avalanche-blogger-roundtable-day-4-part-1.html
Welcome to Day 4 of the Avalanche Blogger Roundtable Fall Tour! Get your T-Shirts:

Sept 21 - Mile High Hockey
Sept 22 - Avs Prospects, Avslova Factor
Sept 23rd - Avaholics Anonymous, Avalanche of Thoughts
Sept 24th - Jibblescribbits
Sept 25th - Colorado Examiner, Anyone but Detroit
Sept 26th - Mile High Mayhem, Jerseys and Hockey Love
Sept 27th - Avalanche Guild
Sept 28th - Disgruntled Avalanche Blogger, HockeyBuzz
Sept 29th - Avs Talk, Hockeyism
Sept 30th - Mile High Hockey

Todays 1st Question:
Who will be the next player to be shipped out? Where would you like to see him go? What kind of deal should the team get in return?

I think Clark is the next guy gone, unless this team is playoff contention mode at the deadline. He's the kind of defender that teams typically look for come Feb./March and he could net something in return. He's got a decent history of being offensive-minded enough, he blocks shots, and he a veteran, all pluses in his column for a playoff team.
- Mike @ Mile High Hockey


It should be obvious at this point that one of the defenseman should/will be out of here pretty soon.

In a perfect world, Brett Clark and his 3.5 million would be out the door. Sadly, I don't think the Avs are smart enough anymore to convince other teams to take out their garbage. The 90s? Yes. 2009? No way.

Scott Hannan's contract is too large, John-Michael Liles sells tickets (at least for the ladies), Adam Foote is too old, Tom Preissing sucks, and Kyle Quincey was brought in to be the new whipping boy.

That leaves a few guys, but mainly Ruslan Salei, Salei won our hearts when he first arrived, but he proved last season that he's probably a 4th or 5th guy at best. I'd rather see Cumiskey move up and Salei out of town.

As for where I want to see him go -- anywhere but Calgary. Chris Drury and Alex Tanguay both donned the "flaming C" and it's not an image I like on former Avs - or Dion Phadouche.
- Geo @ Avslova Factor



If we're talking about who will be the next to go, I would say it's fairly obvious: Ruslan Salei. He's a perfect veteran addition for a team going on a playoff run/push. He'll probably get 2nd or so in return. You'll probably see some interest in Tucker for teams wanting to add a 3rd line pest with perhaps a 3rd or 4th in return, and Clark might even catch some interest for the same price. You'll hear a lot about Foote and Hejduk being available, but I'd be pretty surprised to see them go. It's just not the Avs' way with "their guys."

If we're talking about who I'd like to see go, I would absolutely love to see Svatos gone. He's not a terrible player, he's just not what we need in the slightest. We need scorers and playmakers, not tiny, one-dimensional, injury-prone, defense-challenged rebound cleaners. I'd love to see us move him to Pittsburgh for a 2nd or 3rd.
-thedoctor who kind of, sort of still writes here. Maybe. When he feels like it.



I think the GM on the other side of the table would have to categorically insane on multiple levels to give anything higher than a 5th or 6th Rounder for Tucker. Similarly, I doubt that the Avs would net anything above a 5th for Svatos either, especially at the trade deadline. Who's going to see Svats as the missing piece to any playoff puzzle?
-Mike @MHH


I don't think Clark or Tucker have any trade value unless one gets on a hot streak at some point.

I believe the Avs have been trying to find a deal for Hannan all summer and that they will continue to work on that throughout the season. I think there's a reasonable chance that he's moved this year, perhaps in a trade where they take some salary back.

If the Avalanche fall out of the race early (and, let's be honest, that's a real possibility), I think you will start to hear rumors involving Adam Foote and, yes, Milan Hejduk. They should be our most marketable deadline "rental" players. Both have no-trade contracts, but I think either one would waive their NTC for the right situation.
- David Driscoll-Carignan @ MHH



Teams routinely overpay for both types of players at the deadline: scorers and veteran "gritty" types. Svatos could really provide a boost to a team with strength down the middle and little wing scoring, like Pittsburgh. Tucker is exactly the kind of douche a team like the SJ will randomly decide they need to combat the other, real gladiators out there in the playoffs.

BTW, there's a thread on HF right now with non-avs fans saying Svats would get a 2nd. http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=681358
thedoctor


I think every player has some trade value. Clark could be a decent veteran presence on a team hit by injuries.

On the topic of Sacco, he has no shot at staying unless they win, obviously. Unfortunately, he's been thrown into a complete rebuild and if two years go by and the Avalanche are finishing at the bottom of the conference, it's going to be awfully tough not to give Roy another look. (If he's available.)
Geo @ Avslova


Not too big into predictions like this, but if I was to choose one person that will be shipped (who we'd like shipped is a different topic) it would be Scott Hannan. He's one of those guys that just doesn't do much for me. You don't notice him much as a fan, which I guess is a good thing in a way, but at $4.5 million a year I find it tough to watch him game in and game out and just not do much. Other players in that same boat for me: T.J. Hensick, the already departed Tyler Arnason, and the constant given, Darcy Tucker. Not sure which sucker organization would pick up Hannan's contract either. As far as what the team gets in return, just someone who has a little more impact every night. Those players are pretty easy to acquire, right?
- Jay Vean @ Avs Hockey Podcast



And here's what I had to say:

I don't think there's any one guy who's on the chopping block, even though Salei probably has the most value of those guys who are overpaid, so I'll go with him. I think the Avs will see a lot of in-season turnover this year, especially if they aren't in contention for a playoff spot come March, and that's a strong possibility.

I suspect we'll see the following players moved at some point in the season:

Salei
Clark
Tucker
Svatos
Budaj

I also think there's an outside chance Foote is moved later this season. I don't think he'll be shopped, but I think Hejduk could be had for the right price too. A lot of teams saw Pittsburgh win the cup after adding Bill Guerin last season, which makes Hejduk's value go up.
--Jibblescribbits]]>
jibblescribbits@gmail.com (Jibblescribbits) September Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:20:00 +0000
$45! You cannot be serious http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/45-you-cannot-be-serious.html http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/45-you-cannot-be-serious.html For the low low price of $45 for the cheapest ticket you can see a preseason game between the Tampa Bay Lightning (29th in the league last season) and the Phoenix drifters Coyotes (25th in 08).

In all honesty I had planned on going to this, even though it's more than an hour away from my home. I thought it would be fun to go watch the game, and see guys like Victor Hedman, Martin St. Louis, Vincent LeCavalier, and Alex Tanguay play against Shane Doan, Kyle Turris, Ilya Bryzgolov, and Peter Mueller. I thought it would be a good time.

But for $45? Hell no. For the record I could go to the Avs-Kings minor league tilt tonight for $25. I could save the money for a DU game later in the season, where the most expensive ticket is $36. Both those games are also closer to me, and about 90% of the Denver-metro area, and cheaper. If I really wanted to see those two teams I could pay $25 to go see them during the season.

Tampa Bay @ Colorado - December 11th
Phoenix @ Colorado - Nov 4th, Feb 12th.

So for $50 I"could see both these teams, in the regular season. I really wanted to go but there's no way I'm making the 1-hour trek to pay $45 for a fricking preseason game. Good lord.]]>
jibblescribbits@gmail.com (Jibblescribbits) September Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:52:00 +0000
Getting more out of the Minor affiliation http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/getting-more-out-of-the-minor-affiliation.html http://www.jibblescribbits.com/2009-articles-blogspot/september/getting-more-out-of-the-minor-affiliation.html
But there's a way to put these meaningless (for the fans, preseason games are incredibly useful for coaches) preseason games to use. Clubs could use these to expand their fan base and make the sport of hockey, as well as their brand, grow, and one of the best ways to do that is through a club's minor league affiliate.

The Avs should be looking to grow their fanbase through their Minor league affiliates, Lake Erie and Charlotte. This means they should be playing at least one (and 2 would probably be ideal) games in each town. I'm sure Cleveland fans who got to see Chris Stewart, David Jones, TJ Galiardi, TJ Hensick, Matt Hendricks, Cody McLeod, and all the other Avs that have passed through their system. In fact an Avs vs Monsters game (similar to the Burgundy vs White) followed by an Avs vs Blue Jackets game would be a great way to try and extend the Avs fanbase. The Avs could then head out to Charlotte North Carolina and play the Rangers, since they share the ECHL affiliate there (the Checkers).

These games would be no more taxing than road games, and the Avs could even substitute some of their road games with these games. The Avs currently play 6 preseason games (3 in Denver, 2 away, one in Vegas), this doesn't include the Burgundy/White game. The Avs could emulate Tampa and do a barnstorming tour, playing only the Burgundy/White game and maybe 1 preseason game in Denver, before heading to Lake Erie and Charlotte for a couple games.]]>
jibblescribbits@gmail.com (Jibblescribbits) September Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:09:00 +0000